Illuminati New World Order Part 1/4

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Illuminati New World Order Part 1/4


  1. richcapo

    @bogoffyou3 ” Bush was too thick to understand the new world order”

    Would you mind explaining what you mean by this?

  2. richcapo

    @MJontherox @MJontherox “They’re only getting stronger.”

    They? The United States is the most nationalistic nation in the world, and has been for a long, long time. US multilaterialism is in the basement. Whatever you think that Bush’s “NWO” was, it has no basis in foreign policy fact. Think of how many times we’ve violated international law and the UN since Bush, Sr., as I wrote of previously. If “they” are “NWO”ers, then they have been and are screwed by US foreign policy.

  3. richcapo

    @MJontherox A quote with no context. What’s the point? How does it prove that GHWB, an international law violator, was “NWO” as you believe he was?

  4. richcapo

    He neither said nor, more importantely (because actions speak louder than words), DID what you believe he did.

    “Judging me as a conspiracy theorist when I have not quoted incorrectly.”

    That’s all you have given — quotes. Not acts of foreign policy. You’ve shown no awareness of Bush, Sr.’s international affairs; cling to a hyperbolic interpretation of his “New World Order” speech instead.

    Please explain how his actions in Panama and non-actions in China prove he was “NWO.”

  5. richcapo

    “I don’t really care for opinion, as much as fact.”

    You’ve given me no facts about Bush’s “NWO” to substantiate as the one-world agenda that you accuse it of being, while I have given facts regarding his foreign policy that shows he was an opportunistic nationalist (kudos to him, I say). All you have done is twisted Bush’s very simple political claptrap about ending “the rule of the jungle” into evidence that he was an “NWO” stooge, which makes no sense.

  6. richcapo

    @MJontherox “You’ve not shown how George Bush was saying anything else.”

    George HW Bush violated innumerable international treaties when he removed Noriega and replaced him with a puppet ruler, drawing the ire of the OAS and the UN alike. He also resisted the international call to impose harsh penalties on China after Tiananmen Square. He used the in’t system when it fit him; gave it the finger when it didn’t. That is the opposite of the “NWO.”

  7. koppellhinex

    ╭∩╮(⃕‿⃕)╭∩╮➔ CAPITALISM & COMMUNISM not EQUAL..!!!

    BANKERS & DRUGLORDS screwed life & society in human history.



    HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(

  8. MJontherox

    “If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.” ~ George H.W. Bush to journalist Sarah McClendon.

  9. MJontherox

    @richcapo Judging me as a conspiracy theorist when I have not quoted incorrectly.

    “we use them when we can, ignore them the rest of the time.” Donated on land given by the Rockerfellers. I don’t care how useless you opine them to be. You can’t deny they exist! They’re only getting stronger. You’ve not shown how George Bush was saying anything else. It’s just – again – your opinion. I don’t really care for opinion, as much as fact.

  10. richcapo

    @MJontherox “but they’re getting close…”

    Everything’s always “getting close” with conspiracy theorists: the UN taking over, FEMA taking over, aliens taking over, Satan taking over–this stuff is groundless in my opinion to uphold; at some point, after decades and decades, theorists just have to give it up.

    If you want to know what’s going on, follow foreign policy: Congressional record, intelligence security spending and assessments, troop movements, procurements, etc.

  11. richcapo

    @MJontherox The UN has no power, especially not when it comes to the US. It railed against us for Panama, Nicaragua, Kosovo, Desert Fox, Gulf War II, and on and on. We refuse to help them de-mine Laos, refused to aid them in Somalia, refuse to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, drag our feet paying our dues — we use them when we can, ignore them the rest of the time.

    The UN can have all the member countries it wants. No one’s bowing to it. It’s a joke.

  12. MJontherox

    @richcapo I already know that, I’m not fooled by their tactics at all. “That’s one law for all” cannot be done without agreement. United Nations. They don’t have the membership of every country, but they’re getting close…

  13. richcapo

    @MJontherox Honestly, sir, if you can’t see that the United States is a nationalist, unilateralist regime that puts its interests ahead of those of the outside world (and I’m fine with that), rather than a regime looking to surrender its sovereignty to the “NWO” of conspiracy theory fame, then I’m afraid you’ve been duped by the counter-culture fear peddlers. The US is despised the world around for being so self-centered. It’s not a “one worlder” country, it’s an US FIRST one.

  14. richcapo

    @MJontherox “(That’s ONE law for ALL)”

    No, that’s your interpretation of it, which does not fit GB’s foreign policy or the rest of his speech.

  15. MJontherox

    @richcapo “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.” David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

  16. MJontherox

    “What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea: a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind — peace and security, freedom, and the RULE OF LAW (That’s ONE law for ALL).” — George Herbert Walker Bush in his 1991 State of the Union speech

  17. MJontherox

    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
    Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976

  18. richcapo

    “Think you can’t have FTA’s with more than one country?”

    No, I think there are no FTAs, but instead MANAGED Trade Agreements like NAFTA — rules of origin, anti-dumping laws, and so on: it’s a very, very detailed and active form of trade intervention, as are they all.

    “”Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild”

    This has nothing to do with the topic we’re discussing. If you’d like to give up and switch, please let me know.

  19. MJontherox

    But this is: “[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it’s perceptions.” — Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994. Great. But he also said “The elderly are useless eaters” and “World population needs to be decreased by 50%” So what SHOULD we think of him?

  20. MJontherox

    Zimbabwe did NOT take Government intervention to relieve it’s hyperinflation! It took an IMF bailout, and now their inflation has gone from millions of percent, to almost nil. Oh – and… they now use other currencies than their own, because the Zimbabwean dollar, is FUBAR.

    No imagine that, on a worldwide scale, and understand, than no government, in the world, can intervene. NONE. It’s banks to the rescue again. Unless you want to count the UN?? That’s NWO then isn’t it??

  21. MJontherox

    @richcapo “these agreements are never completely free, especially since they limit the trade participants have with non-agreement parties.” The non participation of non-agreement countries don’t matter. Think you can’t have FTA’s with more than one country? Wrong. Actually, I don’t want to talk anymore. He who thinks I should go read economics 101.”Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    Because money doesn’t talk. it SCREAMS.

  22. richcapo

    @MJontherox Again, I’m not arguing against these such points, and I find you “you can finally” see language incredibly insulting, so please cut it out if you’d like to continue speaking with me. I have been civil to you throughout this exchange and would appreciate it if you would do likewise.

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